1-20-09 Thoughts, rants, whatever

[Christopher]

Here's a thread for us to kick around what happened today.

[DrScreed]

We learned that I am a racist and blacks should not be asked to give!:mad:

[CallawayFT5]

Back in the US, back in the US, back in the USSA... That's what happened today.

[Christopher]

When I heard his speech, I thought to myself "Does he really think we can do all that in 2 years?"

My wife's initial response was, "What's the deal with all the racial stuff?"

After hearing some clips and thinking about it, it sounded to me like Barack really thinks America is messed up. Lines like "We need to get back to work rebuilding America" stick out in my head. I didn't know we started re-building America? I didn't know we stopped? There were lots of slights toward Bush in there too that I didn't hear the first time around.

[DrScreed]

Everytime I hear about his community service groups, better trained than the military and better funded, I have visions of the Nazis! I see gun grabbers and Green freaks coming to tell me I can not use my weedeater due to global warming:mad:

[CallawayFT5]

Yeah whats up with that? A 'civilian force' as strong as the military? Who's he gonna get to join? There aren't that many Black Panthers out there.

[DrScreed]

There aren't that many Black Panthers out there.

There will be!

[CallawayFT5]

There will be!

Well, let 'em come knocking on GI Jew's door and see what they get.....................

[Christopher]

We already have more cops in the country than we need. Add up all the Federal, State, and local agencies and I bet it is in the millions.

[Plimpton]

When I heard his speech, I thought to myself "Does he really think we can do all that in 2 years?"

My wife's initial response was, "What's the deal with all the racial stuff?"

After hearing some clips and thinking about it, it sounded to me like Barack really thinks America is messed up. Lines like "We need to get back to work rebuilding America" stick out in my head. I didn't know we started re-building America? I didn't know we stopped? There were lots of slights toward Bush in there too that I didn't hear the first time around.


I didn't realize how much I was oppressing everyone else. Thank goodness for Rev. Lowery:

... help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."

[Jennifer]

Okay well the day started out like a normal day, not having too high of expectations but. . . oh wait, this wasn't to complain about my day this is yet another black president thread isn't it? Can i just say, get over it. It happened and now we have to deal with it. We can fight it or hope for the best.

[Beancounter]

I'd rather bag on Obama. It's WAY more fun.

My middle-school kids came home thoroughly disgusted with the whole thing. They watched the speech when it happened, then just about hourly after that - INCLUDING LUNCH AND P.E.. I didn't blame them for their disgust. One teacher told my 6th grader that they should all remember exactly where they were when the speech was made because it's history. He remembers exactly where he was when Kennedy was shot, after all. Ok, I honestly don't think he was referring to the historical precedence of having a black president, I think he was simply pressing upon them the reverence owed the event. But seriously, remember exactly where you were? Do you remember every four years? And should you remember the first time he said it, or one of the next dozen times you hear it? Honestly, it wasn't that memorable.

[Christopher]

No, it wasn't memorable. The poetry/GPS chick was memorable. The last preacher guy was memorable. But to etch this day in memory is absurd.

Days that deserve to be etched into memory need no prompting.

[Aaron]

It seems all you hear about is the significance behind his presidency in that he is 'African American'. People have talked about how Martin Luther King would have felt and whether his vision has come true.

I don't believe that MLK's vision has come true. I believe that it hasn't until we're not making a huge deal over a man of color being president. Until there are no more news stories about the "First Black" whatever. Until then, racism and the past will be in our faces, reinforcing the issue.

[Plimpton]

It seems all you hear about is the significance behind his presidency in that he is 'African American'. People have talked about how Martin Luther King would have felt and whether his vision has come true.

I don't believe that MLK's vision has come true. I believe that it hasn't until we're not making a huge deal over a man of color being president. Until there are no more news stories about the "First Black" whatever. Until then, racism and the past will be in our faces, reinforcing the issue.


Well put.

[Beancounter]

I don't believe that MLK's vision has come true. I believe that it hasn't until we're not making a huge deal over a man of color being president. Until there are no more news stories about the "First Black" whatever. Until then, racism and the past will be in our faces, reinforcing the issue.

I agree, but EI had some very valuable insights on KCT that made me think. Maybe you're not saying here that you wish they'd shut up about it already, maybe you're just plainly saying we're not there, yet, I'm not sure. The gist of what EI said is that it's necessary for the minorities to make a big deal out of their achievements, not so much to say "in your FACE!" but to say "We're getting there!" and celebrate each small step toward realizing MLK's dream. ALL minorities should be accepted at a level that it's not news, so I can see where this is a big step in that direction.

That said, and as we've said before, it does seem to be the only reason he ultimately made it, but I'm not completely against having it celebrated that a black man was recognized as being worthy. Hopefully he won't let us down or it's a step backward for the country and for racial equality.

Her original post: http://http://www.kctalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=138734&postcount=20

[DrScreed]

Until there are no more news stories about the "First Black" whatever.

Will never happen!

[DLD]

[quote=Beancounter;3593]The gist of what EI said is that it's necessary for the minorities to make a big deal out of their achievements, not so much to say "in your FACE!" but to say "We're getting there!" and celebrate each small step toward realizing MLK's dream.

My father and his family didn't celebrate when the Catholic majority finally allowed the poor Lutherans immigrants to attend school with everyone else back in the '40s in western Kansas. I suppose that's no comparison.

They just kept working and improving their lot in life. They may have griped and moaned in private but never made it a big public spectacle. Some of the descendents of these people find some quiet irony here.

[DrScreed]

The poetry/GPS chick was memorable.

Yes, just like a toothache! She was mental!

[VoVo]

I have a new tiny member of my family who is white (Dutch/Irish/English), Portuguese, Native American, African American and Pacific Islander. None of it and all of it matters. She is just a sweet little girl and Papa loves her very much. :D

[Beancounter]

I have a new tiny member of my family who is white (Dutch/Irish/English), Portuguese, Native American, African American and Pacific Islander. None of it and all of it matters. She is just a sweet little girl and Papa loves her very much. :D

Congratulations! How many generations back do those nationalities go?